This question was locked by user:kiamlaluno for one week with the claim:

There are disputes about this question’s content being resolved at this time. It is not currently accepting new answers or interactions.

  • user:kiamlaluno locked the session about one week after it was closed
  • The session was closed during a 500 rep bounty which is in my opinion an extreme action
  • The lock came after the question was massively edited to be fitted for re-opening, in a way supported by at least one user (user:Jdrupal)

Before the lock there were 3 votes to re-open it and I cannot know if these votes gone forever → if so, the lock becomes, in my opinion, a moral injustice

I flagged the question to ask where are the "disputes" but the flag was declined without noting this (no constructive reply was given);
well, they surely aren't in the question session because it's locked.

Where are these disputes and did the three reopening votes gone forever?

Update - the mismanagement around this question continues:

After the redundant lock was ended, It seemed to me that the three votes to reopen the question disappeared, so I clicked to vote to reopen it but I got the following error:

You have already voted to reopen this question; you may recast your vote in 10 days ?

I flagged the question to get a mod explanation for the problem but the flag was declined with this message:

declined - flags should only be used to make moderators aware of content that requires their intervention

Of course that the disappearing of reopen votes and let alone wrong messages are "Content" that requires the mod's attention.

The proper action was to escalate the apparent bug to the SE community supervisors.

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  • I suggest the down voter the explain its down vote. – user16289 Dec 19 '19 at 14:17
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    @JohnDoea If you have a problem with a moderator, your best course of action at this point is to use the contact form. I have reviewed the timeline again, and don't see evidence of malice toward you personally. See meta.stackexchange.com/questions/28867/… for more infomation. – mpdonadio Dec 19 '19 at 15:03
  • @mpdonadio I assume that if the mod is sophisticated enough, this won't be counted as evidence. – user16289 Dec 19 '19 at 22:52

Using the term "moral injustice" is a bit melodramatic for something on an internet technical Q/A site.

The post you linked to was flagged 7 times, and has 27 edits. It was locked to give it some time to cool down. The message is the standard one, no more, no less. The system messages cannot cover every single use case, and there isn't an option for a custom message for a lock. The action is what is relevant here, not the reason. The same thing happens with close votes.

The reopen votes are still there.

The flags and close votes on this particular question are a case where the diamond mods waited to see if there was community consensus about what to do. In other words, we let the flags and votes sit for a day or two instead of using our unilateral powers to do something immediately.

Speaking as a site user and not a diamond moderator, I have made Drupal do a lot of crazy things over the years. I also get a "head scratcher" requests from clients that I need to translate into Drupal. I see that you have a real world problem here, but I don't see this as a good fit for Drupal Answers right now. The question is a too-broad, and maybe opinion based. The two answers you have are probably the best starts you are going to get for this.

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  • Hello; In my opinion, it should be noted that it is "melodramatic" in your opinion, while I respect that opinion. Cool down to where exactly - this is rhetorical question (a tool I rarely use) to describe that the term "cool down" is often vague in SE communities. I don't see this as a good fit for Drupal Answers right now I could interpret right now as if the question should be further edited, which I personally doubt should happen... – user16289 Dec 14 '19 at 19:35

Every edit spoils a post to the top of the timeline again. Maybe to win the dispute if it should be reopened or left closed?

This post now has so many edits that the edit list already has a pager. Many of these edits are only minor edits that don't improve the overall readability of this post.

Minor edits, top of the timeline, repeat. For me as content moderator this is quite annoying.

I appreciate the lock and hope it cools down the post a bit.

Regarding the reopening votes I think they fade away after a certain period of time, same as all flags do. When after this time not enough votes/flags come together to trigger an action, the vote/flag counting gets reset to zero.

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  • From my experience in this network since 2013 primarily as a question asker who asked more than 1,000 questions (a small portion not only from that account), asking a scoped, broad enough or precised, well served and web-accessible question can be often way harder the answering a short direct answer good in exact or similar standards. I agree that the number of edits of the aforementioned question could be recognized as exaggerated but this case is special because I already asked another similar less good question about this complex problem; a question that I deleted myself. – user16289 Dec 14 '19 at 12:04
  • The current question (especially after the massive edit) is a significant improvement than its deleted predecessor and the massive edit which is of course very different and totally distinctive than the previous minor ones you mentioned, in my opinion, didn't justify locking in general and not the elimination of reopening votes in particular (rather the contrary). – user16289 Dec 14 '19 at 12:04
  • That said, I don't recognize from your answer where the aforementioned disputes are. – user16289 Dec 14 '19 at 12:04
  • BTW I am not sure all these minor edits should be grasped as bad (and in any case I am not to be "blamed" if there was a blame and probably there wasn't) about the bumping mechanics of the network's sites; I often improve questions minorly to make them more web-accessible (better for reader-programs), but --- continued in next comment: – user16289 Dec 14 '19 at 12:05
  • As you could see from my meta stackexchange profile I asked a few well received questions there but one of them wasn't well received and I deleted it myself; it was the (perhaps badly phrased) suggestion to add a "Question Preview" mechanism currently existing only in stackoverflow.com, to all these networks sites, because from my personal experience it helps to significantly reduce number of edits. – user16289 Dec 14 '19 at 12:05
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    @JohnDoea - The dispute = reopen vs. close votes fired by multiple minor edits. There always is a preview of any post displayed beneath the editor field as you type, innit? Please don't use one single posts of yours to strike out an argument about the whole system or you as one user of this network. – leymannx Dec 14 '19 at 16:08
  • It seems to me you define "dispute" very different than common but even with your definition - session lock prevents any dispute or discourse that will possibly bring reopening and further destroyed that option by vote elimination. I know very well about the preview you mentioned and it is totally different than the generally obligatory preview tool implemented in stackoverflow.com by means of UI and web accessibility. Your last sentence was unclear to me. – user16289 Dec 14 '19 at 16:55
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    @JohnDoea – I wanted to say: Don't take it personal. And to add: You received two great answers already – to a post that in my own opinion is both too broad and an opinion-based issue at once. – leymannx Dec 14 '19 at 18:37
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    Actually, the dispute was about the question's content, as the system message said. If different users keep editing the question, there is probably a dispute about what the question should say. In other words, the question was locked to avoid all those edits that didn't change in any way the meaning of the question, but probably served to bump it in the questions list to make users vote to re-open it. – kiamlaluno Dec 22 '19 at 13:10
  • @kiamlaluno I get the impression you imagine the existence of such "dispute" - I recall no one "disputing" anything at the time of the lock or significant time before it (or anything to justify a lock that in my feeling "came out of the bloom"). If you think I only wanted to bump the question, well, than I honestly think you are wrong --- even if I had such a desire, it was minor; if I had the option, most of these edits would not bump anything. – user16289 Dec 24 '19 at 8:29
  • Locks exist for specific reasons; one of those is avoiding the edits done from different users. Every time a post is edited, the question is bumped on the question list, except when successive edits are done in the grace period; this happens every time so, yes, those edits bumped the question every time. – kiamlaluno Dec 24 '19 at 8:39

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